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Post by noise on May 19, 2009 7:32:15 GMT -5
Reading Joseph's blog it almost sounds like a lot of his "care" was done against his will. just throwing this out there, if this person is a schizophrenic, or simply suffering from paranoid delusions, he will be able to rationalize almost anything while off medication. It's possible that since he was being treated while on his meds (I imagine that would be the case) he would understand he needed help, but now that his disease is returning, he is convinced that his doctors etc were simply apart of whatever conspiracy he is created.
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Post by slow on May 19, 2009 8:27:19 GMT -5
If he believes that the ARG goes deeper than what was told, why not leak some "new" information out there that leads him to authorities, or at least gives us an idea where he is? Perhaps a dead-drop or something? Also, he's probably reading these boards if he's as obsessed as you say, so discussing too many details of a trap probably isn't wise. Edit: Someone should cross-post this to SomethingAwful. I don't know if they'd help since no one got scammed out of a Macbook Pro, but it's worth a try.
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Post by seanstrife on May 19, 2009 10:09:52 GMT -5
Was Mr. Bright homeless at any time? I remember a vagabond posting on here long ago and if it's not him, then he's an important piece of the puzzle.
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Post by slipknotsurvivor on May 19, 2009 10:12:20 GMT -5
hmm, this is all in fact quite interesting...i played the "game" here for a while under a different username, and well, there were multiple people i had spoken to that thought the game was more than that. But an actual place where people with the same viewpoints and sickness came to discuss a favorite pass time. hmm, interesting indeed. im going to see if i can meet up with a few of the people i met in real life off of this board to see how far we get. i bet ill win.
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Post by neletven on May 19, 2009 10:55:10 GMT -5
just throwing this out there, if this person is a schizophrenic, or simply suffering from paranoid delusions, he will be able to rationalize almost anything while off medication. Then he should have been in a certified facility getting the proper treatment from professionals, not a "doctor friend". I for one don't trust the people now running this board. It seems that they may just want to use us to fix their mistake. Joseph, I'm sure you're reading this. Keep running.
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Post by eyestosee on May 19, 2009 11:19:04 GMT -5
A Mr. Joseph Bright from Wyoming is a graphic designed and published author of murder stories. His novel, The Black Garden, features themes of judgment. Inspiration for the story came from his own disturbing past- the discovery that a family friend had raped and murdered an eight year old girl.
Much like the book, who is right here depends on your perspective. Perhaps our Mr. Bright is on the right path. Perhaps the ... for lack of a better term ... authorities are on the right path. In the end, that depends on who you most favor.
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Post by ogrok on May 19, 2009 12:59:18 GMT -5
Ahahaha I'm sure the police would turn over a missing persons case to a bunch of internet nerds. And of course they would hand over all the details of his life to you .You know you guys could get in a lot of trouble pretending to have correspondences to police in the case of a missing person, right?
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Post by noise on May 19, 2009 13:04:04 GMT -5
Ahahaha I'm sure the police would turn over a missing persons case to a bunch of internet nerds. And of course they would hand over all the details of his life to you .You know you guys could get in a lot of trouble pretending to have correspondences to police in the case of a missing person, right? I don't think they ever said they had any official correspondence with any authorities.
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Post by boardmoderator on May 19, 2009 13:54:31 GMT -5
I definitely lurked around. I might have seen one of those above usernames, but it's been far too long... I don't know if youtube comments will help, but looking at the comments for the original videos might help? Here are some relevant links I've saved in my bookmarks and never deleted: forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18374forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=18415happycube.wetpaint.com/Best of Luck EDIT: Oh, I just went back to the links to the videos. It seems like they were taken down. EDIT2: As I looked in some more, I found that the following user on youtube that made responses to the videos seems have a similar tone to the blog, as well as some form of the obsession you described about the videos: www.youtube.com/user/ineedtolikeyou On top of that, that user posted as "ahh_ahhaha" on unfiction on the 16th page or so, and seems out of game (and was warned by several people). We've talked to the group calling themselves "The Dead Kids Foundation" (they provided their own phone numbers, after all). They got a countless number of phone calls during the Wyoming Incident, and it's impossible to keep track of who was calling and from where. There is also an account on Youtube that has the same name as his blog username www.youtube.com/user/idontforgiveNo videos yet, but worth keeping an eye on. EDIT: Or not, since it hasn't been logged into for over a couple of years. Still, the username "IDontForgive" seems a good way to try and track him. The timeframe seems to fit into the Wyoming Incident, though. I will at least be keeping an eye on this. I've read through your posts and I have to say it startled me. I got an email this morning about something urgent going on here and I came to look, and what I saw... I didn't like. Now... I'm going to be as straight forward as I can, considering the majority of you who might read this will think I'm a fraud but, I think I know this Joseph Bright you're talking about. I used to roommate with a young man who called himself Garret Luc-Michael. He was a friend of a friend that I was told was trust-worthy and would at least pay rent on time. It's been about four months since I've lived in that apartment with him, I'm not sure what he's doing now but back then it seemed like he was slowly losing his mind over something. I remember he pulled me aside one day when I mentioned I used to "lurk" on this website myself and started asking me feverishly about everything I knew. The administrators, the moderators, the "puppetmasters" all that. I remember him distinctively saying a couple things: 1) the "game" was using two code words to both describe and hide a huge problem that started back before any of this "happy cubing bullshit started". "Wyoming Incident" is a code name used to cover up the plot against the Father. They wanted everyone to believe it was a mind altering, ritual abuse, brain washing thing. 2) the numbers 333 is a code used to ask people to pay attention. That it's posted in strategic places as events are happening to point out significance to the Children. I remember he went on about something called the Other Union, and now that I read your posts about his hospitalization, I think he's referring to that. I'm not sure what else to say, you can ask questions if you want. I do know that last time I saw him it was here in NM and he was working at a pawn shop. Unfortunately, Mr. Bright is one of many people who believe that there was more to the Wyoming Incident than just a game. We've encountered three other people who were quite offended by us referring to it as a game and treating it in a less than serious manner. The name and details about this gentleman do not match up with any details on Mr. Bright, so I'm afraid it's probably not related. And how are we to trust you? A patient with severe mental problems that has no paper trail to back it up? Using an internet board full of strangers to try and locate him? It seems to me that you're trying to keep this out of the hands of the authorities. Reading Joseph's blog it almost sounds like a lot of his "care" was done against his will. Joseph was allowed to come and go as he pleased. The hospital housed him and took care of him when he had nowhere else to go. This issue isn't strictly about his doctors trying to force him to live a certain way - it's about keeping track of a very vulnerable man who has become, in some ways, a friend. They are all very genuinely worried about him/ If he believes that the ARG goes deeper than what was told, why not leak some "new" information out there that leads him to authorities, or at least gives us an idea where he is? Perhaps a dead-drop or something? Also, he's probably reading these boards if he's as obsessed as you say, so discussing too many details of a trap probably isn't wise. Keep in mind that we also don't want to exarcerbate his fantasies. His doctors have been very adamant about this. Was Mr. Bright homeless at any time? I remember a vagabond posting on here long ago and if it's not him, then he's an important piece of the puzzle. It's possible that there were times before this runaway when Mr. Bright would have taken excursions to places he thought were somehow relevant to the game. During such trips, I suppose he may lived out of his car or on the streets. However, I don't think that classifies him as homeless. Because of his weekly visits, none of these trips could have ever lasted more than six days.
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Post by noise on May 19, 2009 14:16:45 GMT -5
edit: I have a feeling it would be unwise for you to answer my question in public, so I'm going to remove it for now.
Also, I believe that youtube channel belongs to the same person who started the Dead Kids Foundation. He has a video joking about the WI being hoax, I don't think he is suffering from delusions. Although I suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask if he got any strange calls.
Also I'm pretty sure there was only one thread for the WI on the Something Awful forums, but the thread is in the archives now, and it costs $20 to get an account that has access to archives.
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Post by noise on May 19, 2009 14:42:30 GMT -5
oops, quoted instead of edited.
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Post by seanstrife on May 19, 2009 14:57:12 GMT -5
Was Mr. Bright homeless at any time? I remember a vagabond posting on here long ago and if it's not him, then he's an important piece of the puzzle. It's possible that there were times before this runaway when Mr. Bright would have taken excursions to places he thought were somehow relevant to the game. During such trips, I suppose he may lived out of his car or on the streets. However, I don't think that classifies him as homeless. Because of his weekly visits, none of these trips could have ever lasted more than six days. Ahh, because there was a guy on here who went on trips and what not. Sounds slightly familiar but I'd have to read over the threads again to get the full story.
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Post by slow on May 19, 2009 15:47:19 GMT -5
edit:Also I'm pretty sure there was only one thread for the WI on the Something Awful forums, but the thread is in the archives now, and it costs $20 to get an account that has access to archives. I have archives if you'd like me to look for something. Since search is down though, I probably won't be able to find it. If you can find a link though, I'll check it out for you. Edit: Nevermind, I found it. For others that have archives, the original thread was forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2345461but it got gassed after 13 pages and was replaced by forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2350410I'll (briefly) look through it to see if I can find anything that references our buddy Josh.
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Post by noise on May 19, 2009 15:56:04 GMT -5
I have archives if you'd like me to look for something. Since search is down though, I probably won't be able to find it. If you can find a link though, I'll check it out for you. Well, there is a link to the thread in the SAclopedia entry for Wyoming Incident, but I don't know what good it would do. I noticed that Bright makes specific mention of SA and the goons in his blog, but I'm not sure he actually has an account, or if there would be any clues there. I don't want to ask you to browse a long thread for nothing. edit: ahh I see you got it. will be interested to see if anything is there
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Post by boardmoderator on May 19, 2009 15:58:29 GMT -5
We have access to an archives account and are currently going through the Wyoming Incident threads on SomethingAwful. We finished all the Unfiction ones earlier today.
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Post by slow on May 19, 2009 16:35:36 GMT -5
I just skimmed through both threads looking for any posts by any of the names you gave in the OP and came up with nothing. He was probably lurking and doesn't have an account there.
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Post by anathema on May 19, 2009 20:22:02 GMT -5
boardmoderator: Please post the contact information for the relevant authorities to which information should be provided regarding an open warrant or investigation.
Refusal, means we're "4th Wall!!"ing and I'll go back to being a quiet lurker. I do not want to bring actual criticism or solutions to the table if we're supposed to be blanking out the implausible or unreasonable parts of this. Heck, delete this if you want and I'll take it to mean the same. I just want to know whether or not I should bother saying certain things.
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Post by boardmoderator on May 19, 2009 20:40:47 GMT -5
boardmoderator: Please post the contact information for the relevant authorities to which information should be provided regarding an open warrant or investigation. Refusal, means we're "4th Wall!!"ing and I'll go back to being a quiet lurker. I do not want to bring actual criticism or solutions to the table if we're supposed to be blanking out the implausible or unreasonable parts of this. Heck, delete this if you want and I'll take it to mean the same. I just want to know whether or not I should bother saying certain things. If you actually have relevant information regarding Joseph Bright, I suggest you message both me and California's Fresno County police. I'll be able to pass along the information to my clients, and both the police and I will be able to use the information to further track (or capture) Mr. Bright.
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Post by komradeocelot on May 19, 2009 22:40:44 GMT -5
boardmoderator, have you found a general location from where he's posted the recent video and blog?
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Post by boardmoderator on May 19, 2009 22:45:35 GMT -5
boardmoderator, have you found a general location from where he's posted the recent video and blog? Not yet. It's getting harder and harder for us to negotiate with the few Google employees willing to hear us out. I'm still waiting for a message I sent an hour ago to get a reply.
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Post by iamyouareme on May 19, 2009 23:32:11 GMT -5
How did he get the name Joseph Bright? Is it just a psuedonym or was he re-named by the hospital staff who found him?
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Post by boardmoderator on May 19, 2009 23:53:17 GMT -5
How did he get the name Joseph Bright? Is it just a psuedonym or was he re-named by the hospital staff who found him? It's the closest thing he has to an official name, though he may use others.
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Post by iamyouareme on May 20, 2009 0:25:50 GMT -5
It's the closest thing he has to an official name, though he may use others. I see. Any idea why he chose that name, or what his other names might be?
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Post by psyber on May 20, 2009 5:39:26 GMT -5
boardmoderator: Please post the contact information for the relevant authorities to which information should be provided regarding an open warrant or investigation. Refusal, means we're "4th Wall!!"ing and I'll go back to being a quiet lurker. I do not want to bring actual criticism or solutions to the table if we're supposed to be blanking out the implausible or unreasonable parts of this. Heck, delete this if you want and I'll take it to mean the same. I just want to know whether or not I should bother saying certain things. If you actually have relevant information regarding Joseph Bright, I suggest you message both me and California's Fresno County police. I'll be able to pass along the information to my clients, and both the police and I will be able to use the information to further track (or capture) Mr. Bright. Fresno? That's four hours away from me. And his latest blog entry mentions Arcadia. If that puts him in the SunShine State, then Arcadia is only 45 minutes away from me.
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Post by noise on May 20, 2009 7:58:36 GMT -5
Fresno? That's four hours away from me. And his latest blog entry mentions Arcadia. If that puts him in the SunShine State, then Arcadia is only 45 minutes away from me. Actually it says Arcadia district, which seems to be the Pheonix AZ area.
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Post by psyber on May 20, 2009 8:21:16 GMT -5
Fresno? That's four hours away from me. And his latest blog entry mentions Arcadia. If that puts him in the SunShine State, then Arcadia is only 45 minutes away from me. Actually it says Arcadia district, which seems to be the Pheonix AZ area. Well that's a bit of a load off.
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Post by slow on May 20, 2009 9:21:20 GMT -5
I looked up the arcadia district and found this on wikipedia:
"Arcadia contains well-kept homes on large lots; these homes command relatively high property values (as the neighborhood is adjacent to the upscale suburb of Scottsdale). Built on former citrus groves, Arcadia is known for well-irrigated, mature landscaping. Several yards prominently feature orange, lemon and grapefruit trees as reminders of the area's past; the area used to be occupied by citrus farmers from 1919 to the mid-1950s. In the mid-1950s, the rest of Phoenix caught up with the farms and the area suburbanized with characteristic ranch homes on large lots."
This doesn't mesh with Josh's blog, he said the man lived alone on a SMALL house on a hill. That doesn't sound anything like arcadia in AZ. I think we need to look elsewhere. Maybe him mentioning MO is a clue.
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Post by slow on May 20, 2009 11:16:38 GMT -5
If you actually have relevant information regarding Joseph Bright, I suggest you message both me and California's Fresno County police. I'll be able to pass along the information to my clients, and both the police and I will be able to use the information to further track (or capture) Mr. Bright. When you say you'll pass the information on to your clients, does that mean you're investigating on someone else's behalf? If so, who are you investigating for?
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Post by psyber on May 20, 2009 17:44:14 GMT -5
We think he may have also been involved in the assault of some men in the state of California. Details about that are sketchy, and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with this board or the game. I'd like a few more details on this point, now that I read over and heard you say it. How about names, locations, how did he assault them?
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Post by seanstrife on May 20, 2009 17:48:49 GMT -5
Tell us everything: Who are you? Who are you working for? Why are you doing this? Why are you coming here for help on this? Why should we help you? You're being so incredibly vague that I just don't feel I can trust you. I want to trust you, but your secrecy and veils of shadow make it extremely difficult to do so.
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