feeling lonely?

[iambroken]

this light will turn off when you leave the room, by the way

[barbarossa]

Would you tell us who this creature is?

[iambroken]

barbarossa said:

Would you tell us who this creature is?

i am sorry, but that would put me in too much danger. i have only annoyed it by giving away what i have today. it does not yet have any real reason to track me down.

still, by the end of the day, i'll have given you all the information you need for now.

[barbarossa]

Thank you. We appreciate your help.

who benefits when everything dies

Nothing benefits. If I remember correctly many cultures start their beliefs with the struggle between nothing and everything.



The Greeks believe the world was born out of nothing and chaos was the first born. Perhaps chaos would benefit. The problem with that though is that for there to be chaos there has to be something to be chaotic. Maybe something older than “everything”.




who wrote the book that is destiny - why would they end it

Maybe they ended it because everything ends and it’s only a matter of prolonging the enviable. Entropy is a fact. All things fizzle out. Even life and the universe.




why do We like to have fun with groups like this (We can answer this one in the same way you would probably explain your particular affection for video games)

The other side of that coin is that We visit and participate in sites like this for amusement and We think of sites like this like our particular affection for video games. It seems you are not as different from us as you like to think.




why won't you leave the light on

We are not scared of the dark. Perhaps you should bring a flash light

[grandmasterstab]

iambroken said:

this light will turn off when you leave the room, by the way

What do you mean by this?

[kaldais]

grandmasterstab said:

k said:

this light will turn off when you leave the room, by the way

What do you mean by this?

Maybe if you stop paying attention to these events, try to forget them, they will be all the more angered?

[dazeytweeter]

If there is only the Nothing & the Everything, where does the Intangiable lie?

[kaldais]

dazeytweeter said:

If there is only the Nothing & the Everything, where does the Intangiable lie?

Even if something is intangible, I'd still say it exists. So the Everything.

[Jack Q. Pembry]

dazeytweeter said:

If there is only the Nothing & the Everything, where does the Intangiable lie?

very few understand the true nature of the Nothing. There are objects within the nothing, but they do not exist in the way we typically think of existence. i am doubtful even the most loosest definition of the word "object" could be used to properly describe them in this world. close enough, though.

but the intangible things you are thinking of most likely lie within the realm of the Everything.

e: hmm... the admin doesn't seem to be any different than the moderators except i can view the security logs

hold on - i'm gonna try out the global mods

[c1]

anyway, i think i've said all that needs to be said.

know that you all have many different groups to deal with.

many unions are now upset with you. there is one rogue, splinter group that wants to utterly annihilate existence. aediastikos will be a constant threat.

you have a lot to deal with, and things are only going to get worse.

[kaldais]

Well, our situation seems to be several kinds of dour, at the moment.

Is there any good news you could give us?

[grandmasterstab]

Will the embodiment return?

[dazeytweeter]

kaldais said:

dazeytweeter said:

If there is only the Nothing & the Everything, where does the Intangiable lie?

Even if something is intangible, I'd still say it exists. So the Everything.

Are you saying that by even fathoming something/anything as being intangiable, it would automatically make it part of the Everything because some sort of forethought went into it?

But on the same token, wouldn't any kind of thought process/creation make whatever you want intangiable become tangiable because it would make sense at least to the person who thought/created the scenario?

Is there really such a things as "intangiable?"

[Jack Q. Pembry]

the good news is that you still have plenty of time to prepare to fight. that's about it.

the embodiment should return by tomorrow.

[Jack Q. Pembry]

dazeytweeter said:

kaldais said:

Even if something is intangible, I'd still say it exists. So the Everything.

Are you saying that by even fathoming something/anything as being intangiable, it would automatically make it part of the Everything because some sort of forethought went into it?

But on the same token, wouldn't any kind of thought process/creation make whatever you want intangiable become tangiable because it would make sense at least to the person who thought/created the scenario?

Is there really such a things as "intangiable?"

not really, though i understand that can be a hard concept to grasp.

and as for imagining things that may exist within the Nothing...

i am almost positive that is an impossible feat.

[barbarossa]

I won't ask Who you are because I'm guessing I'll get a run around to the tune of " we can not understand who you are because...ect". Instead I'll ask how you figure into what's going on? Who do you work for?


Also, why do you need us to turn on the light? Are we the light? Are you using dark in this analogy to equal nothing?

[kaldais]

dazeytweeter said:

kaldais said:

Even if something is intangible, I'd still say it exists. So the Everything.

Are you saying that by even fathoming something/anything as being intangiable, it would automatically make it part of the Everything because some sort of forethought went into it?

But on the same token, wouldn't any kind of thought process/creation make whatever you want intangiable become tangiable because it would make sense at least to the person who thought/created the scenario?

Is there really such a things as "intangiable?"

Actually, yes. Well, somewhat. It seems to me that the Nothing would consist of things we aren't CAPABLE of thinking of. So if the Everything would consist of everything we could think of, it would only make sense that the Nothing would be inhabited with everything we can't.

[barbarossa]

In quantum physics it is impossible to have negitive numbers. Negitive numbers only exist to accounts as the saying goes. Quantum pyhsics try to explain the laws of everything. Zero is intangible in everything.

Perhaps nothing is the opposite in the fact that only negitives exist. negative mass and such. These things would be absurd under the laws of everything but maybe they are our weak attempt to explain nothing.

Under that assumption, nothing and everything would not just be ideas/states but, on a larger scale could be different " things" ( using that term loosely) all together.

I will admit it is a bit of out of the box thinking, but hey we've been running in circles anyway.

[Jack Q. Pembry]

barbarossa said:

I won't ask Who you are because I'm guessing I'll get a run around to the tune of " we can not understand who you are because...ect". Instead I'll ask how you figure into what's going on? Who do you work for?


Also, why do you need us to turn on the light? Are we the light? Are you using dark in this analogy to equal nothing?

let's say that my job, my purpose, is dependent on the continued existence of this world, and i will not allow myself to be lied to and tricked. this group paranoia has gathered is just one of many that will combat any serious threats. i have been trying to advise many on my "side" for some time. it was simply your turn.

the night that follows this one will be a living hell for many of you. the superstitiousness in some humans will act as a vulnerability, making many humans targets for those who are working against the Everything. it will be a miserable night - one of many dark revelations.

if you find yourself... victimized on this next night, you will know the true meaning of darkness.

and then you will know Nothing.

[dazeytweeter]

Thanks everyone

What I was trying to say/ask last post was if "thinking about" just thinking about the Everything and the Nothing in and of itself wouldn't just "thinking about the Everything & the Nothing" make THAT a tangiable scenario.

[Jack Q. Pembry]

dazeytweeter said:

Thanks everyone

What I was trying to say/ask last post was if "thinking about" just thinking about the Everything and the Nothing in and of itself wouldn't just "thinking about the Everything & the Nothing" make THAT a tangiable scenario.

you would have to be able to truly think of "Nothing" for this to work to its fullest extent.

[barbarossa]

Ah. So, what your trying to say is thinking of nothing would be like a blind person imagining the color purple? We have no past context and can not know what we have not experienced.

Well, that answer puts us in a catch 22 doesn't it. You said you can not be lied to or tricked but we know we can. Why should we follow your advise? What proof can you offer to the side that you work for?

[Jack Q. Pembry]

barbarossa said:

Ah. So, what your trying to say is thinking of nothing would be like a blind person imagining the color purple? We have no past context and can not know what we have not experienced.

precisely.

[kaldais]

admin said:

barbarossa said:

I won't ask Who you are because I'm guessing I'll get a run around to the tune of " we can not understand who you are because...ect". Instead I'll ask how you figure into what's going on? Who do you work for?


Also, why do you need us to turn on the light? Are we the light? Are you using dark in this analogy to equal nothing?

let's say that my job, my purpose, is dependent on the continued existence of this world, and i will not allow myself to be lied to and tricked. this group paranoia has gathered is just one of many that will combat any serious threats. i have been trying to advise many on my "side" for some time. it was simply your turn.

the night that follows this one will be a living hell for many of you. the superstitiousness in some humans will act as a vulnerability, making many humans targets for those who are working against the Everything. it will be a miserable night - one of many dark revelations.

if you find yourself... victimized on this next night, you will know the true meaning of darkness.

and then you will know Nothing.

So, is that to say our would-be agressors are human as well, or something altogether more...not human.

Also, if the latter, would we be able to fight back? Or did you use the word "victimized" with the express intent of telling us we'd just be made examples of?

[Jack Q. Pembry]

kaldais said:

admin said:

let's say that my job, my purpose, is dependent on the continued existence of this world, and i will not allow myself to be lied to and tricked. this group paranoia has gathered is just one of many that will combat any serious threats. i have been trying to advise many on my "side" for some time. it was simply your turn.

the night that follows this one will be a living hell for many of you. the superstitiousness in some humans will act as a vulnerability, making many humans targets for those who are working against the Everything. it will be a miserable night - one of many dark revelations.

if you find yourself... victimized on this next night, you will know the true meaning of darkness.

and then you will know Nothing.

So, is that to say our would-be agressors are human as well, or something altogether more...not human.

Also, if the latter, would we be able to fight back? Or did you use the word "victimized" with the express intent of telling us we'd just be made examples of?

you all have amassed such a large number of enemies that it took me a bit to get this all down.

if maraino launches an attack, expect the shadows, human followers, and a decent chance of falling ill.

if aediastikos attacks, expect anything from vengeful spirits of the deformed and crippled, Children, and humans who may follow him.

If the splinter union attacks, expect anything. bizarre weather, disease, psychosis, dangerous creatures, and anything else you wouldn't want to encounter. there's a chance that the thing leading them will come after you, though it's somewhat slight. he is the one who carries the darkness. he is the one who cannot be beaten alone (if he can be beaten at all).

you may be able to fight off attackers, but there's an equal chance of you failing.

there's a possibility that these groups will try to lay low and attack when least expected. still, tomorrow gives a lot of groups a good opportunity to eliminate unwanted humans. i'm not sure that's an offer a lot of them can pass up.

[barbarossa]

You have come here to drum up support for your side. You seem like a logical being and because of this you must understand that we are, like all people, able to be tricked and have to base our choices on reason and logic. It is because of this that we need more some good faith proof of your sides intent. We can not take you in good faith because we have been burned by children, beings and embodiments before. I understand that you may be withholding details to save yourself, but surely you can give us some proof as to why we should listen to you.

[Jack Q. Pembry]

barbarossa said:

You have come here to drum up support for your side. You seem like a logical being and because of this you must understand that we are, like all people, able to be tricked and have to base our choices on reason and logic. It is because of this that we need more some good faith proof of your sides intent. We can not take you in good faith because we have been burned by children, beings and embodiments before. I understand that you may be withholding details to save yourself, but surely you can give us some proof as to why we should listen to you.

theembodiment shall back me up later, but i'll try and prove myself now.

i have not really asked you to do anything. i have given you advice on fighting and a few warnings, but i have said nothing that could potentially lead you into a trap.

whether you're at home or somewhere outside, you will be attacked tomorrow if you have already been targeted. i can do nothing but warn you.

what sort of plan could false warnings be apart of? why would i get you all prepared and aware of a threat that doesn't exist? i'm not distracting you from anything. i'm not telling you to do anything.

i can understand people having a hard time trusting me.

i will also tell you this: you may very well know the name of the figure behind the union schism by tomorrow night

[barbarossa]

If I have learned one thing from my time on the boards it is that misinformation, no matter how unimportant it may seem, is always harmful.


It is reassuring that the embodiment will be back later and has not been disposed of as so many of our other sources have. I did not mean to come off rude or offensive toward you. You have do nothing to our knowledge but offer us a warning. I thank you but you do understand our paranoia.

[shyft]

You say that some of may perish, is there a way to protect ourselves from a physical attack?

What happens if a child is sent to kill us?
Or a spirit?
I don't see a way to protect against a sickness...

Edit: Also, I must apologize for accusing you in part of foul play against theembodiment, we have lost so many leaders and guides, it's hard not to be suspicious anymore.

[deadonerising]

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